Monday 30 December 2013

LONDON ALLOTMENT GARDENING IN 2013 - WAS IT DIFFICULT? NAH....

ALLOTMENTS IN LONDON ARE DIFFICULT TO GET

SO THEY SAY, BUT ALLOTMENT PLOTS ARE AVAILABLE WHERE MY PLOT IS SITED, IN SOUTH WEST LONDON

MAGA


We have a good Gardening Group to belong to;  it is called MAGA for short.

All plot holders and also gardeners without plots, can join for about £3 a year annual sub. You can buy seeds, garden tools, seed potatoes and onion sets, fertilisers, string, netting and a lot more.  Also you can come along to the Summer Party and the Pumpkin Fest.

DO YOU WISH YOU HAD A KITCHEN GARDEN?

Then try out a little allotment, the small plots are just right to start off with. Spring is a good time to start, when everybody is feeling optimistic.

Link to Local Government site to apply for an allotment

VEGETABLE GARDENING IN LONDON IS GREAT

One of the best things about growing vegetables in London, is the chance to get to know other gardeners, most of them are pretty nice people.  Some are a bit odd........

You can enjoy a bit of wild life too!  Birds, butterflies, bees, and the muted roar of urban traffic.
Garlic planted September now growing in November

BOXING DAY ALLOTMENT PARTY

Parties are good to have on your allotment.  You can ask all your friends and not have to worry about the washing up, just have disposable cups and plates, and a small barbecue if possible.  There is usually nowhere much to sit and you are forced to talk to each other because there is no music or dancing, of course.  Gossiping is compulsory (only joking!)

On Boxing Day we went to our friends' party on their plot, where they have a wonderful wooden chalet complete with a patio and a covered area to keep off the rain, and a mini kitchen.

We had delicious parsnip and apple soup, piping hot - thanks to Philippa!

Also on the menu were hot dogs in buns, and a raised pork pie - home made. Plus wine and beer and fruit juice.  Mulled wine was heated up, using home made wine, made by Paul.

An allotment party is a very good way to end the gardening year.  I strongly recommend it!

Tuesday 24 December 2013

GARDENERS GET READY - ITS THE BIG COOK TIME

CHRISTMAS EVE AND THE LIVING IS EASY - OR NOT, AS THE CASE MAY BE


I spent yesterday doing the prep for Christmas cooking, as today, Christmas Eve, I planned to get away from the kitchen and do a bit of culture.  I planned to visit the Dulwich Picture Gallery and see the Whistler exhibition ....

Alas it is closed today, Tuesday 24th December, and so are all the other galleries and museums, as far as I can tell.


COOKING TO GO

I am lucky to have some home grown veg for our lunch tomorrow.  In order of importance:

Potatoes,  Sarpo Miro - bought from Thompson and Morgan last spring, and very good

Parsnips, Gladiator - much better this year, or 100% better in fact, as I got none last winter

Brussel sprouts (can't remember the variety) - ditto, 2012 wet summer and autumn killed them off, this year was great, and so I have quite a few - straight off the plant they taste so sweet!  My favourite green vegetable.

TURKEY - MASS PRODUCED

Do not grow these myself, so have to use Sainsbury's offering.

Last year the lovely butcher's shop was still with us for top quality turkeys, pork, beef, duck, but alas it closed down in the summer of 2013.  

It was called Hartshorn, and is sadly missed by me and lots of other people.  Its demise was mainly due to the arrival of Waitrose and a mini Sainsbury and the imposition of swingeing parking restrictions in the roads, imposed by the local council.  I still feel sad about its absence.  Oh, the lovely butchers, Ray, Trevor etc.


TURKEY PREPARATION

As I did last year, I bought a whole turkey and have cut off the legs and thighs, and a small part of the turkey breast.  These have gone into the freezer for later on.  I will cook the rest of it, breast,  wings, carcass in butter with a pretty trim of streaky bacon.  

The turkey costs more this year, I notice.  I have a cooking notebook and noted the price of last year's bird, it was £33.87 for 6 Kg, this year it was £35.36 for 4 Kg.

The giblets are already turned into giblet stock, in my pressure cooker, which has its main moment of glory every December - for the Christmas Pud.  I wonder if the pressure cooker looks forward to Christmas?


STUFFING

I usually make a stuffing from a recipe for chestnut stuffing with prunes, in The Penguin Cookery Book, my old standby, by Bee Nilson first published 1952. But last year the quantity was to too much for us to eat, and ended up being thrown out. A bit of a waste.

This year I am trying a new receipt, from a Sunday Times Magazine, but so far, it has come up with just as much quantity!  Once again I am a bit fooled by the amount.   I just can't think in grammes - I am an ounce girl to my greasy fingertips.


STUFFING INGREDIENTS

They cost a small fortune!  200g best streaky, a pack of chestnuts (vacuum packed), breadcrumbs, 2 onions, garlic, sausagemeat, by the time it is finished I might as well have bought a bigger turkey and just gone with a packet of Paxo!


A SUMMARY OF WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING TODAY

So here I am, wasting time on the computer when I should be:

washing the mud off the potatoes and parsnips
peeling potatoes and par-boiling
scraping the parsnips
trimming the sprouts
chopping the onion and infusing the milk with it, ready for the bread sauce
adding the sausage meat to the stuffing mix, ready to cook it tomorrow
putting bacon round a few chipolata, for pigs in blankets
and .....  oh yes!  


CHAMPAGNE

I won a bottle of champagne about a year ago, and have been waiting for an occasion to open it
Tomorrow is going to be that day
Happy Christmas boozing!

And Happy Cooking, thanks for following me on this blog.



Monday 16 December 2013

GO FOR A DROOL, TO PETERSHAM NURSERIES - TRY TO RESIST TEMPTATION!

PETERSHAM NEAR RICHMOND, A LITTLE PIECE OF PARADISE

I went on the special Foraging event at Petersham Nurseries, Petersham, near Ham on 1 December, a Sunday.  The Petersham Nurseries are delightful and full of interesting and desirable things to buy.... as well as being the home of the famous cafe and tea house.  Petersham are members of the Slow Food Supporters Scheme.

I notice from their website that you can buy a Foraging walking stick! Now why didn't I ask for one for Christmas.....
Petersham Nurseries Shop and Garden

Previous post link here, about the actual walk
Foraging walk with Claudio Bincoletto

The Petersham Nurseries are on the banks of the Thames, and abut onto the flat green Petersham Meadows, which you can see from the beautiful viewpoint of Richmond Hill.

Not having been to Petersham before, I found the locality fascinating, with beautiful old houses, some cottages and the lovely small church of St Peter, where Captain George Vancouver is buried, who discovered Vancouver Island.

Sorry to say,  I did not take any photos of the Church or the meadows. Will have to go back and take a closer look soon.  There are box pews in the church, which is rare this near to London.

ST PETER'S CHURCH, PETERSHAM

The link below give details of the church and other people associated with it, such as Theodora Jane Cowper, cousin of poet William Cowper, and is where the marriage took place of the parents of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, later Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother. (Earl of Strathmore and Nina Cavendish-Bentinck, in 1881). The information is from the Local History Notes of the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames website.

St Peter's, Petersham

THE NURSERIES

I particularly liked the display in the first section of the nursery which I entered, after walking through the yard full of small plants and an array of lovely earthenware flowerpots, various sizes.  They are, I think, made in India and might be hand-made.  Not often you see these flowerpots, new, for sale. 

These photos I took with my little old Nikon camera.


Tree ferns, and other tender indoor displays

Wooden plant labels, seed packets

Seeds with the Petersham label, plus some Italian ones

Garlics all ready to plant now, or spring

Hairy pots! Like I saw at Walmer Castle in the summer

Petersham Nursery seeds for kids, fun designs

Claudio introduces the Foraging

Fungi on display at the start of our Forage

Cheese from Italy, this one is very special, we enjoyed it later, with polenta

This may be Chicken of The Wood fungi

Cutting the Italian cheese for our brunch

Petersham Nursery does a good table setting, pretty crab apples


Italian wine from a very special vineyard in the North - it was very good!
The admirable fungi
YES, I WILL DEFINITELY RETURN TO PETERSHAM NURSERIES

It is difficult to park there, by the way.  There are parking spots in the road leading down to the river, a few minutes walk along the main road, towards Ham Common.  "This road is liable to flooding", say the signs.  You can of course get a bus from Richmond Station.

Friday 6 December 2013

A WALK IN PETERSHAM, FORAGING WITH CLAUDIO BINCOLETTO

RE YOU KEEN ON FORAGING? OR MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS!

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LINK TO FIND OUT MORE


OUR FORAGING WALK WAS CONDUCTED BY CLAUDIO BINCOLETTO


IT WAS ON SUNDAY 1 DECEMBER PETERSHAM, NEAR RICHMOND

It was an early start, 9.30, at the Petersham Nurseries, which is, as you might guess, in Petersham between Ham and Richmond on Thames, Surrey.

Petersham Nurseries seemed immediately welcoming and attractive and I spent some time wandering around the area near where Claudio Bincoletto and Alastair Cameron  plus others were busy cutting up bread and getting glasses ready for the 'brunch'.  I will write more about the nursery on a later post.

Round tables were set with cutlery, glasses, cups and napkins.
Claudio Bincoletto introduces our Foraging morning walk


First Claudio and Alistair Cameron gave a brief introduction about Foraging and Slow Food.
SLOW FOOD

From the Slow Food website:
"1986 
Slow Food is created in Italy after a demonstration on the intended site of a McDonald’s at the Spanish Steps in Rome.

Slow Food has now spread worldwide."  
SLOW FOOD.COM

FOODIES

Well, there is so much interest now in food, and half the people you know seem to be 'foodies', cooking, growing, visiting farmers markets, that sort of thing.  If necessary they seem to wear wellies permanently, and anoraks, and look fit enough to take a quick 20 mile walk before breakfast.

Our group included some wellie and anorak wearers, a few carrying those fancy walking sticks with pointed ends. 

I had on my old old leather shoes, and I discovered on setting out, the reason why I had put them on one side  to chuck out a year ago. The soles had completely disintegrated, but I managed to plod along, without heels.  Luckily there was very little mud.

WALKING FROM PETERSHAM NURSERIES TO HAM

We walked from Petersham through a few tiny alleys between houses, cottages and private land, until we came to Ham Common.  
Claudio said that winter is his favourite time of year, and then you can see everything that is growing, including the fungi.
Fungi in season in autumn

He explained that if you want to pick anything, it has to be on common land.

COMMON LAND

You must not take anything from someones garden without permission, or a public garden, or even by the side of the footpath.  That constitutes theft;  (what happened in the 18th century was the poor were denied access to their 'common land',  for grazing their livestock or growing crops,  picking herbs and saladings, thus causing great hardship and starvation.)  We walked on, at a brisk but not unpleasant pace.

IVY AND YEW

Claudio explained that yew and holly are important native trees/

Chestnuts are on their way out now., chestnuts, elms and ash are all afflicted with diseases and will die out very quickly. Ivy is the only winter flowering plant and provides flowers and berries for wildlife. It is one of our basic British plants and he loves it. Research is being done on its use medicinally.  Its role in nature is to take down trees, causing the trees to decay, increasing fungi and giving space for new growth.

He does what he describes as "Sky Foraging", and he is a tall man - he means he collects things on his eye level or higher, if possible, to avoid contamination from animals, humans and petrol fumes.  This higher stuff is cleaner.  He never forages for eating stuff in London, because of pollution from cars and lorries.

We walked down an avenue of trees that included limes, another of our native trees, the tiny buds of which are nourishing and the young leaves in spring can be added to salads.

NETTLES AND ALCANET

Nettles were here and there and he pointed out the very young low shoots can be used added to soups, also alcanet or wood borage (pentaglottis sempervirens), the young leaves of which are sweet, and should first be mixed with spinach if you eat it. Also cow parsley can be added, a very little of it, to salads.  Alcanet is a problem in gardens where I live, as it has long taproots and is very difficult to pull out, and it self-seeds all over the place. Drat it!

He pointed out that we should try things like nettles in very small quantities, and add to another green veg such as spinach, until we are sure that we like the taste.  It is an acquired taste as it is bitter, as it sorrel.  

Always try a new leaf mixed with one you know, because the new taste can get some getting used to.  I had previously made notes about leaves which we can add to our diet, when attending a RHS Flower Show in the Autumn.  See the link to my earlier post, here:

HOW TO FORAGE - MY EARLIER POST DONE IN OCTOBER

He said that the basis of most academic research on plant use had to be for the use the benefit of  the pharmaceutical industry, to make money; that  research is what the pharmaceutical industry will support financially. 

He said, very seriously, that our societies are on the brink of collapse, as there were 9 billion of us, and that two thirds of the planet was at risk of deforestation.


He whistled at a bird, possibly a thrush, and it mimicked him;  he said birds will mimic you and also owls will come towards light, in the evening, so to attract them, leave your blinds open.

MORE ABOUT TREES

Oaks;  lots are dying off from oak dieback, possibly because the water level is too low now after draught. Claudio said that fungi are the only organisms that can process wood, 91% of living organism are fungi and they are essential to life, they give nourishment to the soil.


When looking at fungi, have a small magnifying glass, and look at the gills and spores. How the gills join the stalk gives an idea of what kind of mushroom it is.  We saw some very small greyish mushrooms in a clump by the dead oak tree, which he picked and gave us to smell. He said it was not very good to eat, it smelled of acrylic paint!  The Chinese apparently like it and it is farmed in China.  He said do a Google search for Rogersmushrooms - to get a good visual guide, and it certainly looks very good, here is a link:

We walked very near the ground of Ham House, which I have not yet visited, alas.  It had a stillroom there which was where herbs etc were stored to be used in a tradition of healing closely associated with 'witches' in the past.  Claudio mentioned Stevia, which I am growing in a little pot, it is a green leaved herb with very sweet leaves which have no calories and can be used to sweeten food and drink, and used in cake making. You can dry the leaves too or make a herb tea.

ARTISTS MUSHROOM, OR AS A SEARCH ON GOOGLE REVEALED, THE ARTIST'S CONK MUSHROOM


and pictures here:


There was a huge fungi growing on one of the ash trees by the river.  It is called - one of its names - the artists mushroom.  When sliced you can draw on it like a kind of slate, making dark marks on the off-white surface, which is then a permanent message or graphic.  Loved by children, apparently! Claudio said he uses chunks of this fungi as a paperweight.

We passed a clump of very large lime trees by the river. It is apparently rare to see such big healthy trees in London. Likely that the water from the Thames is helping in their growth, this is in the flood plain. 

THE RIVER THAMES AT PETERSHAM
The walkway along the river is the remains of the old drover road from London in the 14th and 15th century.  Loads could be transported by boat down (or up, not sure which is the correct expression!) to London with the current, but loads coming upstream had to be hauled by oxen or horses, thus the ancient grassy roadway along the bank of the River.  It was the original way from Hampton Court up to Whitehall

BIODYNAMICS.

Claudio talked about the influence of the moon, on the appearance of mushrooms, saying when the moon is waning or dark, more mushrooms appear. He found that the moon's cycle also affected when calves and lambs are born, speaking of his experience as a child on the family farm in Italy.
He uses the biodynamic calendar to time when to sow his seeds, and to prepare the soil for sowing.

I notice there are a couple of books for sale on Amazon on biodynamic gardening, and a calendar, Maybe I will give it a go, (make life even more complicated!)

We walked back to the Petersham nurseries along the beautiful Thames and arrived to find the delicious 'brunch' ready for us to eat and drink, and at the same time take the chance to talk to the other people who had taken the walk.  I shall probably sign up for the spring Foraging Walk, it was really great.

There is a lot of information on the internet about foraging, for instance this website

THE ECOLOGIST, TOP TEN FOODS TO FORAGE

Alistair gave us a brief talk about the Slow Food Movement, which I mentioned above.  He also talked about Terra Madre day, on 10 December, see













Friday 29 November 2013

WANT MORE GARDEN PROBLEMS? GROW A BLACK WALNUT TREE

PLANT A WALNUT AND DON'T BOTHER WITH ANYTHING ELSE!

ENGLISH WALNUT, ITS OFFICIAL NAME IS JUGLANS REGIA


Yes, there is a walnut tree on the plot next to mine.  I noticed it as a little sapling a few years ago.

At that time the plot was being cultivated, so I told the person who had the plot, that it would grow very big - he just said 'Oh, I was wondering what it was..."

How I wish I had sneaked in and cut it down then!  But I am too law-abiding.

Now the tree is quite large.  It has attractive silver bark and the squirrels really enjoy the nuts. 


English walnut tree trunk


Our allotment plot walnut tree is the English walnut, Juglans regia, and should not be confused with the Black Walnut tree, Juglans Nigra, which is widely grown in the USA.


JUGLONE


Some plants are apparently affected by Juglone, secreted from the leaves and roots of the walnut tree.


WHAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED?

TALKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN BLACK WALNUTS, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
ASK COM. WHAT CAN'T I PLANT UNDER A BLACK WALNUT TREE?

This web site lists plants that are not good to plant under a Black Walnut tree - 
(remember, in England we have the English tree, I will call it the White Walnut as its trunk is whitish)

Asparagus, Cabbage, Aubergine, Peppers, Potatoes, Rhubarb, Tomatoes


English walnut next to my plot
The above two images were photographed by me on the allotment site in England.

Black Walnut, thanks to A. Giarraputo


Black Walnut nuts, thanks to A. Giarraputo
The above images of Black Walnuts are reproduced with the kind permission of A. Giarraput who photographed them in New York State, USA.  

The English walnut does not produced Juglone to the same extent as the Black walnut tree.
I found some information from links kindly supplied by Steve at Burncoose Nursery, the lovely nursery in Cornwall.  Burncoose sells walnut trees, in case you want to buy one!

BURNCOOSE NURSERIES, CORNWALL

Royal Horticultural Society Walnut information

The Royal Horticultural Society says tomatoes and apples are particularly affected.

Here is what I noticed on Wikipedia, where there is a lot of information:

"Mature trees may reach 50 feet in height and width, and live more than 200 years, developing massive trunks more than eight feet thick."

it looks as though our tree is going to outlive us!  I think we should cut our allotment site's tree down now and not wait for it to get 50 feet tall..... but then I will not be around in 200 years time, I wonder if allotments will be around then?

BLACK WALNUTS  - JUGLANS NIGRA - AN IMAGE OF ITS TRUNK
Black Walnut, thanks A Giarraputo for image


This is the tree we do NOT have.

WISCONSIN HORTICULTURE   uwex.edu

According to Wisconsin Horticulture, which deals with American horticulture not English, you can grow:  
Beans, beetroot, carrot, sweetcorn, melon, onions, parsnips and squash, but there is a long list of OK plants which includes flowers and trees too.


What they say on Wikipedia about Black Walnut trees:


"A number of other plants including apples, tomatoes, and white birch are also poisoned by juglone, and should not be planted in close proximity to a black walnut. Horses are susceptible to laminitis from exposure to black walnut wood in bedding."



As well as eating all the walnuts, the squirrels in our area also enjoy the hazel nuts from my cob nut trees so they are getting very fat and cheeky.  And produce lots of little squirrel pups, of course.  I wonder if our resident foxes like nuts too?



Wednesday 20 November 2013

WHAT WAS GOOD ABOUT GARDENING IN 2013?

WE HAD A GOOD YEAR, DIDN'T WE?

Now at the tail end of the year, when it is dark and wet and cold, it is nice to look back at photos of your garden.

Pleasant to do because some of the best parts I photographed, and they are good to remind yourself, ready for next year.  I will put a few of these photos on this blog.


Frogspawn, arrived late

Marsh marigolds in my pond

Lovely bees on the cornflowers on my plot

Hope the cornflowers come back next year

Potatoes did very well this year


Symptom of the dreaded brown rot on apple tree

Self sown poppies by the pond
Cucumber plants in the greenhouse

My friendly neighbour on the next plot

The squash plant

Lily, so beautiful

Two more friends on the allotment

The hemerocalis bought at Walmer Castle

Big, juicy and delicious

Pelargoniums I admired at Walmer Castle

The veronica plant hates hot dry summers, I don't

Chilies in the greenhouse, good crop

Nicotiana bought at a plant fair, still flowering in November

Nice to come home to, front garden


Virginia creeper, also self-sown (from next door)
Now its winter I must read this

Delightful stone sculpture at Wisley RHS garden

Also at Wisley Autumn Show, these cheerful local brewers

TULIPS


Late autumn is of course the time to plant tulip bulbs, and I have just bought the very last lot, half price at the Garden Centre.  These are 6 Queen of Night and 6 Ballerina, plus 20 dwarf assorted colours, unnamed varieties.  Got to get out there tomorrow and plant them, in a place where I do not remember seeing tulips last year (not an easy task).  I hope the pesky squirrels leave them alone.


FIRST FROST


The frosts have started and I just went into the greenhouse and covered the scented pelargoniums in their big pots (too big to come into the house) with a bit of horticultural fleece I collected from the allotment rubbish heap.  Hope the little darlings make it through, as most of the cuttings I took from them do not seem to have taken.  It costs quite a bit to buy new pelargoniums for the next year.


ALLOTMENT - MORE PROBLEMS!


Yesterday as it was not raining or blowing, I dug up yet more clumps of grass on my allotment.  All the grass seeds blow over from the next plot, which is not cultivated.  Then by the spring, these grass clumps are huge, with mega root systems.  I have learned this by bitter experience!

An ongoing problem, too, apart from all the other problems over on the allotment, is a very large walnut tree on another uncultivated plot.  It is self-sown, not very old but already spreading its branches across over my raspberry patch. It has walnuts every year, and every year the squirrels get every single nut.

I asked if it was going to be felled, and a member of our committee replied that it probably has a 'Tree Preservation Order' on it, thus preventing its removal.  Quite mad!  It means that nobody will take this plot and cultivate it, as the tree takes all the nourishment from the soil.


BRASSICAS AND PIGEONS


My brassicas are now cover up with an assortment of nets, bits of old plastic fencing, chicken wire and yet more nets, weighted down with old bricks -  all to keep off the pigeons.  It is so impenetrable that I have given up trying to get into it and pick a few brussel sprouts.  Will make a supreme effort if there are still sprouts left, to get some for Christmas lunch, yum!


MAY NOT BE MUCH MORE NEWS ABOUT GARDENS IN DECEMBER BUT KEEP WATCHING THIS SPACE - YOU NEVER KNOW


Monday 11 November 2013

DO YOU HATE SQUIRRELS IN THE GARDEN?

SQUIRRELS ARE A PEST IN THE LONDON SUBURBS

Elegant protection against squirrels, the predators

 FLOWER BULBS, PARTICULARLY CROCUSES IN POTS


I have to protect them from the pesky squirrels, of which we seem to have several dozen frisking about the fences and trees.  I have put daffs and tulips, plus a few crocus and some little blue iris, in pots and have made them really decorative with these mesh things, from old appliances, which I found on the dump where I have my allotment.  Pretty ?

Little bulbs need protection from squirrels
Even so, I found one pot, where there was a couple of crocus bulbs left from last spring, had a large hole dug in it and the bulb eaten, drat!  I had to put yet more protection over it.

SQUIRRELS ATTEMPT TO  INVADE HOUSE

Damage done by squirrel getting into loft

You can understand why I don't like squirrels, apart from them eating the bulbs.  They tried and nearly succeeded in getting into our loft a few years ago, and did a great deal of damage gnawing the soffit boards etc round the roof.  It cost us a fortune to get it all repaired.

POND PROBLEMS


I wrote earlier in the year about the mega large waterlily.  The blossoms were lovely, but the waterlily had to be moved on.  I left the pot with the plant growing in it  for somebody else to use in their pond.  Maybe this is called 'pond-cycling'?
Alas, the waterlily got too big and had to go


There was a very big accumulation of leaves from the waterlily plant, which I had acquired from the allotment dump a couple of years ago. I had to brace myself and sink my arms into the pond to grab hold of the plant and heave it out.  Then I had to do the same with some very huge water plants that were also doing a take-over bid.  This is the result, not a pretty sight.  But maybe next year will be better (I always say that).
Pond minus plants and waterlily


CHILLIES

The chillies did very well, probably because it was a warm summer with lots of sunshine.  I planted the seeds in February, in my heated propagator in the house.

Beautiful chillies from February seed sowing

MICHAELMAS DAISIES


These were so nice to come home to, after our autumn holiday.  They brightened up the front garden and flowered for a week or two.  Now they have all gone to seed, and are not very pretty.
Dwarf michaelmas daisies, called Bermuda, I think
 

Wonder if I should cut the seed heads off to prevent unwanted plants?  Previous years I got lots of unwanted, self-sown michaelmas daisies of the huge type, those ones with very pale mauve flowers.  So I was stern with myself and yanked them all out earlier in the year.  It is satisfying to do this, because they pull up really easily.  Here is a photo of the garden in early October with the dwarf michaelmas daisies, but now its much less pretty!

Nice to look at, in the middle of dreary November